We had a full cast for this week’s episode of Now Conspiring, and for good reason. After weeks of dancing around it, we finally review Revenant once and for all, with some of us loving it and others…not so much.
We also discuss a ton of new movie news you can jump to in the show notes below, and our main segment covers the possible permanence of Disney’s new flagship franchises.
QUESTION OF THE WEEK: Will Star Wars and Marvel last forever?
Let us know your thoughts (and your favorite podcast moments) in the comments, which we may read on next week’s show! And be sure to rate the podcast on iTunes and/or Stitcher, where you can also download this episode. Or just Tweet us…@NowConspiring
00:00:00 – Song of the Week: “King of the World” by Weezer
00:00:29 – Introductions and tomfoolery
00:04:12 – Movie News: Kayla geeks out over a new Zootopia clip
00:07:25 – Movie News: Adonis discusses news from Batman vs. Superman
00:12:23 – Movie News: Maria hates on the Top Gun sequel
00:18:24 – Movie News: Jon talks about the new Secret Life of Pets trailer
00:21:12 – Movie News: Mike gives us the lowdown on Sundance movie buzz
00:24:30 – Movie News: Jon digs into the controversy surrounding a Michael Jackson movie
00:29:37 – Main Segment: We debate whether or not Star Wars and Marvel will last forever
00:45:28 – Review: The Revenant
01:00:08 – Feedback: We read and answer your comments from last week’s show
Note: At this point in the show, the audio sort of…freaks out. We apologize, but unfortunately, there’s significant feedback from this point onward.
01:21:45 – Movie Releases: We cover what’s coming to theaters this week.
This week’s artwork is by AxelMedellin
30 thoughts on “‘Revenant’ Review; How Star Wars and Marvel Could Last Forever”
Marvel will definitely last forever. Star Wars will most likely see the next decade or two, but not much more then that.
I’m back for my bi-yearly comments! I personally don’t think that Marvel will last forever. One of two things will happen. They’ll either run out of source material and just give up, or be run into the ground by angry fans. Star Wars, on the other side, I do think will last forever. Like Sherlock, we’ll get three episodes every hundred years, but instead of fan fiction, it’s television shows and books.
I don’t think anything is forever. Except Disney. And Pixar. And DreamWorks.
My thoughts exactly.
Something else. Probably Mario.
I meant Mario as well.
I definitely think it’s possible that Star Wars and Marvel stick around forever. Neither movies nor the two universes have been around long enough to truly gauge how long they could potentially last. However, like Kayla said, our tech will change. We live in a world of constant change and fluctuation in every aspect of our lives from the clothes we wear to our methods of payment. So in fifty years, we may not be watching movies anymore. We may be living them. And we’ll probably call them something else. And at that point in time, we are going to want to relive certain aspects of what we’ve experienced through this new lens of view. In comparison, fairy tales started as oral stories, spread from generation to generation with shifting views and tones. Then we got the chance to write them down and give them permanence in the form of books and short stories each one drastically different from its predecessor. After that came movies, and suddenly we could actually see the stories take shape in the way one person or another pictured it as they first experienced it. With our advancements in tech, we’ll revamp these old stories again as we will Marvel and Star Wars. Both are not likely to die out soon not only because of the love we fans have for them, but because as we advance through time, we are going to be able to change the way we experience and view these two universes. The stories won’t always be the same and they’ll be written and rewritten in so many different ways and from different viewpoints that I don’t think they’ll ever die out. There will always be someone somewhere who decides to bring it back. Who knows? Maybe one day there will be some new fangled director of sorts living on an exoplanet thousands of lightyears away who decides to revamp The Avengers because he has a new and unique way to tell the story. To sum up (and to let you catch your breath after reading this far too long comment), it won’t die out. The current MCU and Lucasfilm we have now might, but the stories will not.
That is a lot of words.
Hello, all! This is my first time commenting on the podcast, despite listening to it for one/two years (what is time even). I started listening way back when it was just Jon and Maria… that’s two years, right?
I’m not particularly into having Star Wars and Marvel go on forever, but at this point they basically own my soul, so I’d probably go watch Star Wars XVII if it came out while I was still alive.
A question for Kayla and Adonis – have you considered teaming up and making Kick-Ass 3: The Resident? Because I’d watch the hell out of that movie.
Also, SAM. PLEASE CAN WE BE BEST FRIENDS I DON’T CARE IF ADONIS HAS ALREADY CALLED DIBS. I WILL FIGHT HIM (with a strongly worded letter).
I love you all, you make my day so much brighter.
I suppose I’ll have to meet you on the battlefield then. The location will be the park at 3pm, I have class at 1-2:30 so I may be a little late. The trophy will be Sam, the only strong letters we can use are A, Q, P, and J. Perhaps Z, if I’m feeling daring.
I have a racist’s anonymous meeting on that day, but I might be able to get out of it. It depends whose turn it is to present their ideas for the sketch show we’re starting. I’ll get back to you when I find out.
Awwww, no B? That’s not playing fair, man.
Actually, I also have a class that ends exactly at 3, and will be arriving late as well. Solidarity, brother.
If you see me carrying an unmarked package, do not be alarmed. Those are just my physics notes – nobody said you couldn’t bring THOSE to a gunfight.
My birthday is tomorrow on the 3rd. Yay!!!!!!!!!
Thank you Maria. By the way. Can you guys please decipher some of what you guys said during the feedback. If you can remember and add anything I would appreciate it.
Happy belated birthday (sorry I’m a bit late, I was training for my duel with Adonis.)
Can I be on your team? Please.
I may seem weak but like Yoda I’m a “force” to be reckoned with.
As long as you keep the acrobatics to the minimum, I’m sure we’ll get along splendidly.
You got it.
Ironically as good as an acrobat I am able to get a bad back easily so it’s perfect.
You probably knew what I meant but I said even though I’m a really good acrobat I get really bad backs easily. Figured you would’ve figured it out but wanted to rewrite it to make sense.
Hello, Jon’s shih tzu here again (haha)
I think that Marvel will last a long time, purely because there is so much they can do with it, so many characters and comics they can base it on, although personally I feel that they need to take a break because there are sooo many TV shows and movies and overlaps and it’s getting a little much, but they’re also missing things out because they’re trying to do it so quickly.
And Star Wars, well I think they are trying to do what they have done with marvel and have all these different stories about different characters but the source material just isn’t there like with the Marvel comics, I think maybe what will happen is what keeps happening where they release movies then it goes away and comes back again because then there will be a new generation to get excited about it.
I did listen to most of the fuzzy bit, it sounded like you all had kazoos!
Welcome back Racist Sam. What are the racist slurs today? When will you do the top ten lists pertaining Disney, DreamWorks, and Pixar episode?
Just to say there are no hard feelings here are my official top 50 (subject to change) you may poke as much fun as possible I was just upset because I can’t tell whether it’s true or joking anyways here we go:
My Top 50 Movies Of All Time:
The Prince of Egypt
Beauty and the Beast
Meet the Robinsons
Alice in Wonderland (Hand-drawn)
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
Kung Fu Panda 2
The Polar Express
How to Train Your Dragon
Ice Age Dawn of the Dinosaurs
Harry Potter and the Order of the Pheonix
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone
Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer
Puss in Boots
Toy Story 2
The Wizard of Oz
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
The Road to El Dorado
All Dogs Go To Heaven
The Simpson’s Movie
Toy Story 3
A Bug’s Life
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
The Lion King 1 1/2
12, Spirit: Stallion of the Cimmaron
Kung Fu Panda
The Emperor’s New Groove
The Jungle Book
Over the Hedge
The Lion King
By the way what were you saying about your book being plagerized by someone? I was interested and the static was too much.
The list is 50 on top-1 on bottom
Hello again, conspiracy cowbells. I think that both Star Wars and Marvel have the possibility of lasting forever, due to the high number of possibilities/source material, but I’m not sure how long people will want them to be kept around. Sort of like a certain member of this podcast who shall remain Adonisless. Whenever I think of Star Wars and Marvel movies going on for decades or even centuries, it reminds me of the Futurama episode titled ‘The Late Philip J. Fry,’ where Fry and Professor Farnsworth and Bender literally watch the universe come to an end multiple times. I’ve shed many a tear watching that episode. In the meantime, this week on Netflix, I’d like to recommend Full Metal Jacket, which is my personal favorite Kubrick movie. I always think of the drill sergeant from that movie when I see J.K. Simmons in Whiplash, and Vincent D’onofrio hit the ground running in the late 80’s as Private Pyle. I’m running out of words, so farewell, and don’t forget that if you want to catch a mouse, you’ve got to think like a mouse.
May I recommend a Netflix whatchamacallit? I choose All Hail King Julien the T.V. Series prequel to the original Madagascar. They even put in a lot of abandoned concepts from the first movie in there. Throw in Julien’s stupidity and Mort’s irresistible cuteness its sure to make anyone laugh. Also, how ironic is it that when I bring up the background noise all the noise cuts out? (I’m picking)
So Jon. Do you have any advice for us three conspires (Me, Mango, T. Rooney we call him T.) and our new theory?
Star Wars will not last forever. Marvel will last the next two decades. I think the real question is, will the Kick Ass franchise last forever?